Subject	Ash's first and 2nd gen were not mandrel bent ..
Posted by	The Devils Z on March 01, 2008 at 8:54 AM
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In Reply To	huh? posted by aliaZ on March 01, 2008 at 08:40 AM
Message	he sourced them out for reasons that he will say later ( for ex. the fear of vacuum leaks or foreign material being loose inside the welds and getting to the turbo ) For consistency on a high volume item, Ash sourced the work out as a machine will have more accuracy than a human. Mandrel bending is not cheap but not 100% expensive either. Take that into consideration of shipping to him and then to the customer / insurance / the cost of the labor / the cost of the materials / powder coating / etc ... it adds up easily and quickly ... doing this in house and not using the same materials is cheaper .. however Ash sourced this out so that he can turn them around faster for customers ... he just needs to stay on top of the manufacturer or switch to a company that understands meeting dead lines better. You get what you pay for .... =============Sig begins here================ The Devils Z.com The Devils Z Pic 666 rwhp dyno The Demon Z pic (in progress) View Me! Disclaimer : Not Safe For Work !
Follow Ups	About the 2.5" pipe kits by TOM and Ash - kickerzx 16:52:23 02/29/08 I think only the charge pipes are inlcuded... (n/m) - nemo1080 16:55:20 02/29/08 Have you emailed/called T0M or Ash? I'd suggest - Dave N 16:57:01 02/29/08 They include all pipes from the turbos to the tb's..... - Ice95z 17:01:13 02/29/08 troll ... (Total Hits: 901) (n/m) - Guapo 17:03:24 02/29/08 Re: troll ... (Total Hits: 901) - Ice95z 22:09:39 02/29/08 rock on (n/m) - Guapo 22:11:51 02/29/08 Ash's kit has bends too - they are simply in the couplers. (n/m) - Bernie (NoVA) 22:14:40 02/29/08 the bends are not the real problem ..I don't think Ash - The Devils Z 06:13:05 03/01/08 huh? - aliaZ 08:40:11 03/01/08 Ash's first and 2nd gen were not mandrel bent .. - The Devils Z 08:54:10 03/01/08 this thread has nothing to his 1st or 2nd gen pipes - aliaZ 12:36:27 03/01/08 Re: this thread has nothing to his 1st or 2nd gen pipes - The Devils Z 12:49:25 03/01/08 Really? - aliaZ 13:47:42 03/01/08 Re: Really? - The Devils Z 15:09:44 03/01/08 just to clarify - aliaZ 18:58:52 03/01/08 ahh .. I see your point and I am 100% wrong on a few - The Devils Z 21:24:24 03/01/08 still waiting, no 2.5" piping and no update - z32hp*700* 13:01:48 03/01/08 I know for a fact that he has sent two communications - The Devils Z 15:04:14 03/01/08 well the last update was on 12/13/2007@3:24pm - z32hp*700* 15:51:07 03/01/08 email ICE95Z ... I spoke with a couple hours ago .. - The Devils Z 16:24:18 03/01/08 Dang, I knew I missed the flow comparison! Please link - Scotts94z32 17:05:54 02/29/08 you're an idiot and/or puppet - ali300zx 17:16:22 02/29/08 lol (n/m) - Adam (NoVA) 17:23:24 02/29/08 based on? (n/m) - Tikigod (Denver) 17:33:09 02/29/08 (Total Hits: 905). (n/m) - Spongerider :) 17:43:53 02/29/08 Re: but you get what you pay for.... - Tu 17:54:28 02/29/08 winnah! (n/m) - Adam (NoVA) 17:57:35 02/29/08 False (n/m) - Bernie (NoVA) 18:17:39 02/29/08 Re: False - JFRacing 18:42:51 02/29/08 I believe you. As an aside, have you ever measured - Scotts94z32 23:02:16 02/29/08 there is a big difference in performance ..similar to 3 inch - The Devils Z 06:15:00 03/01/08 Re: False - JFRacing 18:44:32 02/29/08 Both links do not work (n/m) - pcproa 18:59:29 02/29/08 Re: Both links do not work - JFRacing 19:24:44 02/29/08 u can read about sex and speak about the "benefits" - The Devils Z 06:18:06 03/01/08 Re: u can read about sex and speak about the "benefits" - JFRacing 08:31:04 03/01/08 I like the fact that you are a true disbeliever in the - The Devils Z 08:36:57 03/01/08 what you are missing is how much easier it will be to - The Devils Z 09:14:48 03/01/08 hahaha, thats so true! - itsghoZt 09:16:35 03/01/08 2x2" pipes != 4" pipe - sparkie 13:58:21 03/01/08 To my understanding, sending Ash money for something - TriniTT 19:43:45 02/29/08 he might actually WANT to get what he pays for. (n/m) - Halo Z 20:03:27 02/29/08 You capitalized the wrong word :) "actually want TO GET..." (n/m) - 91Z32TT 20:56:54 02/29/08 ehhh, otehr seem to toss money at as and don't seem to mind - Halo Z 00:04:40 03/01/08 detected and no go in 'n you tell me do things i dont runnin (n/m) - TriniTT 00:22:51 03/01/08 Re: he might actually WANT to get what he pays for. - Ice95z 14:33:57 03/01/08 dude, you are some no name clown. you really have no - Halo Z 20:11:37 03/01/08 WTF? Are you pulling this info off your anus? (n/m) - Devi13 05:20:34 03/01/08 Re: About the 2.5" pipe kits by TOM and Ash - Rob260 23:37:14 02/29/08 ..if you only knew what I know :) ... (n/m) - The Devils Z 06:19:22 03/01/08 That Ash is a meth head? - ni[X]it 08:31:42 03/01/08 Ash has "the business" as long as there is demand .. - The Devils Z 08:45:08 03/01/08 what does this have to do with 300 degree? (n/m) - aliaZ 12:38:18 03/01/08 I asked the same thing - AZHeat 17:24:32 03/01/08 Nixit's comment about Ash "inventing" stuff that has - The Devils Z 19:12:14 03/01/08 ok - aliaZ 19:14:26 03/01/08 As usual, you're way off base. (n/m) - Guapo 22:19:34 03/01/08 as usual ...show some links where I have been "way - The Devils Z 07:19:19 03/02/08 10 years and you still don't understand that your 90k in - Guapo 13:24:15 03/02/08 you are right about the 90k ..I only was making reference - The Devils Z 14:42:49 03/02/08 You sure type a lot. Let me know when you say something - Guapo 20:07:33 03/02/08 just address your original statement w/facts about - The Devils Z 14:09:56 03/03/08 You're talking out of your a$$ as usual. - Spongerider :) 14:45:18 03/03/08 Your posts are painful enough to read the first time - Guapo 14:56:26 03/03/08 Nick did all the R&D on the 300Degree rails. Fact. (n/m) - Bernie (NoVA) 15:51:45 03/03/08
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